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  • #694
    Daniel Slováček
    Participant

    Hi once again,

    when I make an A to B trip, using Google Pay, what sometimes happens is that I can’t touch in/out as I haven’t caught mobile signal.

    This might be a problem for two reasons
    1) maximum fare (however, it looks like there’s some AI behind the scenes, which completes incomplete journeys on the principle of commuting between two places)
    2) potential revenue inspection

    The only 100% solution then seems to be using standard Contactless/Oyster.

    #697
    Mike
    Moderator

    I’m not particularly knowledgeable about Google Pay as I don’t use it. I’m surprised that it needs signal to record a touch though. I might have to sign up to try it out when we’re allowed out again.

    #698
    Daniel Slováček
    Participant

    Well, I suppose it does need signal since everytime this happened, I had no signal, which has already broken my journey lots of times, but I somehow always manage to stay within the three refunds per month, mostly thanks to AI.

    #721
    Alan (28481k)
    Participant

    Google Pay does not really do offline payment authorisations well on its own app (technically Google claims there is one offline chance for such payments at any one time on the phone but I never had it working, so I assume it has to be online only), this is why it is paramount to ensure the phone is online whilst paying.

    #722
    Chris D.
    Participant

    I also can’t speak to Google Pay, but Apple Pay is capable of authorising a transaction on public transport only even when the phone has no signal and is out of power. With Apple this is a feature called “Express Travel” and needs to be turned on; I wonder if there is something similar on Android?

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    #724
    Daniel Slováček
    Participant

    I don’t think so…

    #725
    Alan (28481k)
    Participant

    Daniel is right, there isn’t. Google Pay relies on their cloud to carry card details through a technology called Host Card Emulation rather than Secure Elements.

    #726
    Daniel Slováček
    Participant

    Ooo, expert… 🙂

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