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    Took a journey earlier from Aldgate to Hornsey by changing from Metropolitan to Great Northern at Moorgate – expected this whole thing to come out at £3.60 (zone 1-3) but actually amounted to £5.70 – assuming this is some special pricing structure for national rail trains, but I was just wondering if there was any logic/formula by which they price this or it’s just completely random based on the service?

    On this line (the great Northern out of Moorgate), surely this unfairly penalises passengers who get off at the small stations (Hornsey/Harringey etc) with no tube connections. If I’d done the same journey on tube and Great Northern but got off at Finsbury Park which is just one stop before Harringey I’d have only paid £3.20 in total for my journey from Aldgate – I guess a big factor here is that there’s no way of the system knowing whether you used tube or national rail, as both Moorgate and Finsbury Park use one gateline for entry to/exit from all trains.

    In my opinion an extra £2.50 charge to travel one stop and 3 minutes more on a Great Northern train seems quite excessive here – would be interested to hear your thoughts.

    Mike (admin)

    Hi Gaston,

    I sympathise, but there are two factors against you here. Fares for late adopting NR lines (like GN) are generally higher than comparable tube and NR lines which use TfL prices. This is a historical issue but there doesn’t seem to be any political will to synchronise fares. Then there is the second issue which is the premium added when you use the late adopting NR lines along with tube or DLR. Again this is historical, although it does only affect fares when the journey involves zone 1.

    You are correct that up to Finsbury Park there is no difference because that part of GN has always charged tube fares, largely because you can’t tell which way someone has travelled. There is also the small matter that Finsbury Park is in zone 2 so I would expect the fares to be cheaper than to Harringay in zone 3.

    If you want to try and understand how things work then take a look at the Fares Guide page.

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