Elizabeth line mixed mode premium

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    Michael Tsang
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    I am checking some fares from Winchmore Hill (Great Northern, Zone 4) to Custom House (Elizabeth line, Zone 3) and Royal Albert (DLR, Zone 3), passing through Central London.

    To my surprise, the fare to Custom House (Elizabeth line) is cheaper than the latter, with the difference being an additional DLR leg at the end. The presence of the DLR leg, but not the Elizabeth line between Liverpool Street and Custom House, attracts the premium.

    I am also checking some fares from the south east to Liverpool Street (Underground) and they also don’t attract a premium as well. Therefore I believe that the Elizabeth line mixed mode premium only applies to the section between Paddington and Liverpool Street, while the section between Liverpool Street and Abbey Wood is dual-scaled. (In addition, the Metropolitan line between Farringdon and Moorgate is also dual-scaled as well which needs to be corrected in the fare guide. Travelling between an NR-only route and Barbican does not cause a premium).

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    Mike
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    Hi Michael,

    Apologies for the delay in replying.

    The nature of the stations at Farringdon and Liverpool Street on the Elizabeth line mean that fares valid to/from either of them have to also apply to Barbican and Moorgate respectively. The same is also true in reverse for Moorgate and Liverpool Street. A side effect of this is that travel on the Circle, Met or Ham&City can be allowed at NR rates if the overall journey could have been made on NR only. It’s complicated.

    I will look further at the fares guide map, but it is only a guide and the page does say that the fare finder should be used for specific fares. There are other anomalies which aren’t specified like fares for SWR services changing to the Victoria line at Vauxhall for other LU destinations in zone 1. Although the journey is charged as one, if splitting it in two at Vauxhall would be cheaper then the sum of the split fares is what is charged.

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