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  • #4369
    Jonathan Maddox
    Participant

    Apologies if this has been covered before – I have looked before writing this post.

    A personal ambition is to do the Full Network Challenge – all 272 stations in one day.

    My question is how to pay.

    If I use a contactless card and just tap in/out when leaving/joining the network will the price cap operate and result in me actually paying the equivalent of the cost of a day Travelcard?

    Or is Oyster a better option?

    I want to tap, not use paper ticket, in order to save time.

    Grateful for any advice on the best way to pay. Many thanks.

    #4370
    Mike (admin)
    Keymaster

    Hi Jonathan,

    I would not recommend doing either Oyster or contactless. The problem is that you have to adhere to maximum journey times between touch in and touch out, and also keep track of out-of-station-interchanges joining journeys together. If this happens then you’ll be charged two maximum fares and neither will count towards the daily cap.

    There is one potential compromise which is to buy a weekly zone 1-9 travelcard on your Oyster card and then cancel the Oyster card at the end of the day. This will result in the unused part of the travelcard being refunded. It will also result in the Oyster card being cancelled. A replacement will now cost £7 and is not refundable.

    Good luck with the challenge though.

    #4371
    Chris Hein
    Participant

    My advice is to get an East Midlands Railway smartcard. It’s free of charge and arrives in a few days

    Using their app you can buy a one day Travelcard and load it into the smartcard – which is literally a matter of tapping it on the back of your smartphone.

    This removes the issue of worrying about being charged max fares or max time limits for your journeys and gives you the flexibility of having a one day ticket on an Oyster substitute!

    Chris

    #4372
    Mike (admin)
    Keymaster

    That’s a good alternative, Chris. Obviously a zone 1-9 Anytime travelcard is required (unless the challenge is being done on an engineering free weekend. You may need to select Amersham as the origin station to ensure that you get all the zones. There is no need to start at Amersham though.

    #4373
    Chris Hein
    Participant

    Forgot to add, if you have a Railcard that is valid for when you want to do the challenge, the discount applies to the Travelcard as well.

    #4374
    Jonathan Maddox
    Participant

    Many thanks Mike & Chris. This is very helpful.

    #4375
    Jonathan Maddox
    Participant

    Chris – got the EMR app, registered, ordered a SmartCard. Having played with the app I’m pretty sure that a ONE-day TC is not available. A 7-day one is. So I guess the EMR SmartCard option is effectively the same as Mike’s Oyster option … buy for a week then cancel. (I have an Oyster so don’t need to buy one).

    #4379
    Alan (28481k)
    Participant

    I’ve actually thought for a bit and realised that instead of using East Midlands Railway, we should use Greater Anglia smart card as a Travelcard carrier instead!

    From their website/app, set a journey from Brentwood to Liverpool Street departing in morning rush and then select the Travelcard option, then you can get an Anytime Zone 1-9 Travelcard on a smartcard costing £25.70 w/o Railcard discounts.

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks ago by Alan (28481k). Reason: grammar changes
    #4381
    Jonathan Maddox
    Participant

    Thanks, Alan,
    I’ve just signed up with GA and have ordered a Smart Card. I attempted to order a DAY Travelcard and one is offered, but instructions are given for collection – not sure that even GA will put a DAY Travelcard on their Smart Card.
    I have done as much research as I can and I am sure that, at present, TfL only offer a paper DAY Travelcard; it says in their website that they will cease to offer the paper DAY Travelcard in January 2023.
    I get the feeling that an electronic DAY Travelcard is simply not available. Perhaps it will be after January 2023.
    It is certainly the case that for Oyster, EMR, GA and doubtless others, a WEEKLY electronic Travelcard can be purchased.

    #4382
    Chris Hein
    Participant

    A one day Travelcard is definitely an option but you may have to put in a journey where it’s the cheaper option to get it.
    I think I put a journey in from Slade Green to Upminster returning the same day and I got it no worries.

    Just looked at my expired tickets and it says Slade Green to London underground z1-6 as my journey

    Was same price as Travelcard and I used it all day without issues.

    Interestingly, I discovered that despite Southeastern running commuter services into London, you can’t buy an inboundary Day Travelcard on their “key smartcard”

    #4383
    Jonathan Maddox
    Participant

    Yes – a DAY TC is definitely available (paper ticket, to be discontinued in Jan 23) but I fear I’m looking in vain for a DAY TC on any type of Smartcard. I really want to avoid a paper ticket because of the need to pass quickly thorough barriers. I think it remains the best option to either put up with a paper DAY TC or get a WEEKLY one on Oyster (or one of the other Smartcards), possibly surrendering it after the Challenge.
    If anyone can report on actual experience of buying a DAY TC for Z1-9 on a SmartCard then please report!

    #4390
    Alan (28481k)
    Participant

    According to Greater Anglia website, you can add day travelcard to your GA smartcard:

    https://www.greateranglia.co.uk/tickets-fares/season-tickets/smartcard

    What tickets can I get on my Smartcard?
    Your Smartcard will let you load up to 5 Smart tickets at a time.

    Travelling Monday to Friday – Season ticket (Weekly, Monthly, Custom Period and Annual) and Travelcard Season tickets.
    Travelling every now and then – Flexi Season ticket
    Travelling very little – Anytime Day tickets , Off-Peak Day tickets and Travelcards

    I think it’s important to buy a ticket between Brentwood and Liverpool Street during the peak hours and select travelcard as your delivery option, but you’d need to be able to give your card number to receive the order.

    #4450
    Jonathan Maddox
    Participant

    I take it back – Alan is right. My Greateranglia card came today and I’ve just spent a few minutes on their website.

    I tried Amersham to London, peak time. A DAY Travelcard is offered – £25.70.

    So that is the solution I need. Many thanks to all.

    (I would post a screenshot but that facility doesn’t seem to be available).

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