Interaction between hopper and Z1-2 cap

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    kijeta
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    Note that this post is based on an adult oyster with a railcard linked. For the sake of clarity, the Z1-2 offpeak cap is £5.60, Z1-3 offpeak cap is £6.60, the bus cap is £5.25, as of the time of writing this post.

    I’m aware that trams are NOT covered under the Z1-2 cap, but buses are. However, what if the tram journey is free because it’s covered by a hopper started by the bus?

    My assumption is that the first £1.75 from the bus would contribute to the Z1-2 cap. Would the next tram journey (within an hour) be charged £1 (to compensate for the Z1-3 cap) or £0 (under the hopper) or £0.15 (to compensate for the £1.75 hopper fare)?

    Take, for example, the following made-up journey history.

    09:59 Battersea Park NR (2) -> Victoria NR (1) (£2.00)
    10:30 Victoria NR (1) -> Putney NR (2) (£2.00)
    11:30 Bus 493 (would have been £1.75, now £1.60)
    12:15 Tram at Dundonald Road (£???) <- here, the oyster would have recorded £5.75, which is over the £5.60 Z1-2 cap, but under the £6.60 Z1-3 cap.

    If the tram were to be charged £0.00 under the hopper fare, then the passenger would have paid £5.60 for the whole day’s journey (under the Z1-2 cap), but still managed to get on a tram despite it not being valid.

    Would the tram charge £0.15, to bring the original bus 493 back to £1.75?

    I appreciate that this is such an odd edge case, but I’ve been thinking about it for such a long time.

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    #7365
    Mike (admin)
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    Hi Kijeta,

    That is an odd case, yes. I don’t know for certain, but my best guess is that the hopper will win out first, but the high zone flag for capping will also be increased to 3. This means that if you make another chargeable journey (bus/tram or train) it will deduct a charge to take you up to the zone 1-3 cap.

    Do let me know if you ever try it out!

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