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Probably easiest to buy the required paper ticket at the London Waterloo Main Line Rail Ticket Office
You need a RETURN ticket from “London Boundary Zone 6” to Woking
There are various Return tickets
Off Peak Day Return if leaving Waterloo after 9:00 – probably 09:30 is the first sensible train. But you can leave as early as you wish on Saturdays. £10.00
If you are leaving after around 11:40, then it is the much cheaper Evening Out Return. £7.30. Yes evenings start early
On Sunday, it is the Sunday Out Return. Leave as early as you wish. £7.30
If you have a railcard, say Senior Railcard, then ask for the Railcard discount, and Mondays to Fridays the first available train is 09.30
And as you are using the Oyster 60+, you can use non stop trains
You will not tap out at Woking as you will use the paper ticket. Likewise you do not tap in at Woking on the way back
The Oyster 60+ will not care that you tapped in at Waterloo and did not tap out. Likewise when you tap out when you get back to Waterloo
No worries Mike, but thanks for taking an interest
The Pension Age Freedom Pass is not valid for travel until 09:00 Monday to Friday on TFL services which would include EL, and is not valid for National Rail travel in London until 09:30
This change was meant to be just temporary from June 2020 to stop overcrowding during Covid. But it is now permanent to save or make money for TFL
I am certain that the Pension Age Freedom Pass would not let me through the gate line at Paddington at 06:55 on a Thursday, but I could give it a try
Indeed previously at East Croydon re National Rail I seen about 200 pensioners blocking the routes to the gates, as all awaiting the 09:27 tannoy announcement that the gates are now ready for using the Freedom Pass on National Rail. Always know your customers/passengers
TFL have said they will respond in about 10 days. And I need a moment to do a delay repay with GWR, I haven’t done one for ages, and they are never much worth the effort
Hi Mike
Many thanks. No worries. I am confident re getting the refund(s)
My journey was to end at Slough. My plan was to travel on the 06:50 GWR first stop Slough from Platform 5 with a scheduled arrival at 07:03. The EL had a strike timetable
The cancelation announcement was at roughly 06:50. And by the time I had gathered my thoughts and read the screens re a next train, I was fairly convinced that I could not get from platform 5 to Platform 14 to get the 06:56 slower GWR to Slough. Platform 14 is next to the Hammersmith & City platforms, so miles away. If they had put the 06:56 train on any of the other platforms, I think I could have joined it
There is a common gate line to Platforms 12 and 14. But I am convinced there is not an “inside the gates” route from platform 5 to platforms 12 and 14. As I was keen to get on a train soonest, I decided not to tell the gate line staff member at platforms 12 and 14 that I already had a live tap in. Otherwise everybody would do that and do a doughnut
As chance would have it and aiming for the common gates to platforms 12 and 14, there was a strike timetable EL train from platform 12 at 07:00 to Slough. Which I joined rather than attempting to run much further to platform 14. I do have a Freedom Pass as I am over 66, and really have given up running
The 07:00 EL and the next fastest 07:20 GWR were both timetabled to arrive at Slough at around 07:33. The EL train on the slow lines and the 07:20 GWR on the fast tracks
As it happens both trains were a few minutes late in arriving at Slough, and even after walking across the bridge at Slough the EL train did result in the faster tap out at 07:39, as I could see over my shoulder the arrival of the 07:20 GWR train. I have prints from the GWR website showing this GWR train arrived late
Hence qualifying for a delay of more than 30 minutes with a 25% claim I can make to GWR
My contactless record also includes an EL on train Revenue Inspection at 07:35 – and even that is 32 minutes over my intended arrival time of 07:03
I have not yet shared my contactless record with GWR, which has charges of £5.40, £26.00 for the cancelled GWR train and £9.30 for the final leg
My contactless record does have a whole string of single journey charges at off peak at a total price of £8.30 for my single journey from East Croydon to Slough, showing tap in times at East Croydon all before 06:00 with tap outs at Slough at various times between 06:57 (each very tight connection between trains being successful, although this connection is understandably too tight for the TFL and other journey planners) and 07:15, so some slight delays on occasions
Hence a tap out at Slough at 07:39 should be enough to evidence to GWR a delay of over 30 minutes
