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Thanks. Does this mean it’s actually perfectly legal for a z1-2 season travelcard (on oyster) holder to go to Gatwick and back into z2, without taps, for free? I’m aware that the revenue protection devices say the approximate zones on the top right corner of the screen – will that have any implications?
For Turkey Street to Enfield Lock, it usually involves a mandatory tap at either Tottenham Hale or Liverpool St (same station OSI). But equally it’s possible to do it without taps, and physically stay in z6 the entire time, by changing at Hackney Downs instead. Considering freedom passes (are 60+ oysters the same?) cannot handle OSIs, does that mean a Turkey Street (or Cheshunt) to Enfield Lock journey would raise alarm bells for staff checking the journey history afterwards? (I presume it’s unlikely that anything automated would catch it out.)
Side note: is there a particular reason that freedom passes cannot handle OSIs?
So this would make Ewell West<->East one of those station pairs where the most sensible route cannot legally be done on a z1-6 paper travelcard (or freedom pass).
Is it alright to do so with a z1-6 season travelcard loaded onto a blue oyster card? I feel like it’s a grey area, since clearly Epsom isn’t included in the travelcard, and the passenger would not have paid for the extension with an EWE<->EWW journey, but then they did have a PAYG element on the card to show intention (and ability) to pay for Epsom…
Other similar situations I can think of are:
Cheshunt <-> Enfield Lock (for freedom pass. N/A for paper travelcard, legal for z1-9 cap)
Slade Green <-> Crayford (for z1-6 paper travelcard. legal for freedom pass)
Anything else?Thanks. Surely back then, Epsom was still in zone 9? That only got moved very very recently.
For Ewell West<->East. The cheapest paper ticket option is actually a split ticket (unsurprisingly splitting at Epsom). But PAYG is still marginally cheaper (15p difference for adult, and 5p difference for railcard). Since Epsom is within the Oyster zone, am I right in saying it’s perfectly legal to use Oyster for the sensible (via Epsom) route?
Michael, out of interest, is there a particular reason you used KeyGo for Victoria -> East Croydon on the 15th?
Apologies for not posting an update.
I did call the oyster helpdesk, who have refunded 7.15 (I was charged 4.45 + 4.45 = 8.9, I should have been charged 1.75, so they refunded the difference)
I then asked them whether they could provide an explanation, replying that it’s because I have exceeded the maximum journey time limit (although I don’t think I had)
