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Thanks Mike for the comprehensive explanation.
It does seem a raw deal on the suburban lines as TFL rinses non-Londoners with special conditions outside Zones 1-6:
• No discounts for railcards (Oyster not supported on Reading line)
• Fare increases above RPI while Zones 1-6 have a fare freeze or token rises
• Additional mid-year fare increases for Travelcards
• Journeys split and charged as two with traditional NR OSIs not supported by TFL
• Emasculated delay repay scheme with no payout if delay not the fault of TFL
• No Zonal ticket available on Heathrow Elizabeth Line branchThank you OutOfTime, that helps fill in some of the jigsaw pieces.
However using TFL fare finder and selecting Richmond rail (as opposed to Richmond underground) it gives the £4.50 fare. Going west via Windsor is the reasonable route for this journey if departing Richmond on a train, otherwise it would be a Zone 1 journey changing at Willesden Junction, Queens Park and Paddington. Maybe the Zone 1 routing is the recommended journey but how can the traveller know this?
Thanks Mike. If you’ve not yet had the answer, here is some more evidence as it seems that there is still misleading fares information being published on these routes.
For Richmond (rail) to Slough off peak, nationalrail.co.uk advertises a contactless fare of £9.70.
TFL / Oysterfares records a fare of £4.50.
Having made the journey, TFL split it at Windsor and charged £8.70 (£6.80 + £1.90)
Hi Mike,
They were sourced from nationalrail.co.uk.
This is the £4.10 fare (TFL has £3.90)
https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/journey-planner/?type=single&origin=MAI&destination=WDT&leavingType=departing&leavingDate=020226&leavingHour=10&leavingMin=45&adults=1&extraTime=0#O
This has the £22 GWR fare (TFL has £20.70 but National Rail do not offer this fare when taking the fast GWR service from Maidenhead, only Elizabeth Line)
https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/journey-planner/?type=single&origin=MLW&destination=ZFD&leavingType=departing&leavingDate=020226&leavingHour=07&leavingMin=45&adults=1&extraTime=0#OThanks Mike.
At Reading the ticket halls are at ground level by the north and south station entrances. Only the lower numbered platforms (southern side) are accessible without using the overbridge (and only from the south entrance). Elizabeth Line uses northern platforms (13/14) so in the example above the four escalator journeys are up to the overbridge, down to the northern ticket barriers, back up to the overbridge and back down to the original platform 14/15 (which is adjacent to but not accessible from the north entrance).
If the Gatwick train departs from Platform 5 then yes it’s only 1 up 1 down.
And it appears it’s not GWR’s station, it’s Network Rail’s.
