Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
Mike should be able to confirm but there is a cut off time before peak cuts in. It’s happened to me at the end of the peak, where I’ve been able to tap in just before 7pm and be charged the off-peak fare.
I’ve never tried it as a fellow B&T user. As it caps Monday to Sunday, I find it easier to buy a weekly pass as I start on a Thursday without losing the opportunity to cap.
Apologies on the Woolwich Arsenal DLR fares, it appears the official TfL single fare finder didn’t refresh yesterday when I posted after checking Woolwich EL.
Good to see the Woolwich (and Woolwich Arsenal DLR) fare issue from stations south of New Cross Gate on the Overground has been solved with it now being charged at the standard TfL rate without having to use the validator.
Abbey Wood is still at the NR fare, presumably it’s too much of a revenue loss to Southeastern to allow passengers to be charged at the TfL rate using the validator at Whitechapel?
Whitechapel to Bethnal Green NR is another glaring omission, but I think that’s down to why Shoreditch High Street is in Zone 1 for revenue issues to stop passengers cutting across to North London via SHS or Bethnal Green.
The NR 2-3 fare made sense when Southern operated the London Bridge to Victoria loop service via Crystal Palace, but seeing as that’s largely been axed, it makes sense to have the pink reader options at Surrey Quays and Clapham Junction for this journey.
I’ve now added a FOI request to TfL regarding fare charging from London Overground stations south of New Cross Gate to those two SE London Elizabeth line stations.
The previous request was a standard enquiry as I didn’t want to waste public resources on a FOI, but I think it’s something that needs raising at a higher level.
It’s clearly an error at their end as they’ve managed to get pink reader options for stations on the SLL, yet nothing here. In any case, I’m going to make a trip on the Elizabeth Line today to Tottenham Court Road where the fare is correct, but really wanted to go to Woolwich without having to spend an hour on the 122!
Reply from TfL regarding fares on the southern ELL extension to Woolwich & Abbey Wood.
“In this case i am afraid that the only ways to make this trip are noted on the tfl website under alternate fares and if your desired trip is not there then it is not available. We are still in the process of updating our system to incorporate the Elizabeth line into our website and online tools (single fare finder) so this could change but for know these are the only available routes that allow you to skip zones 1.”
I fear journeys to Woolwich and Abbey Wood will remain on the NR scale from Forest Hill (to protect Southeastern revenue) as when I tried Forest Hill to Custom House NR, it came up with the correct TfL fare of £1.70 off peak.
The TfL fare finder has removed Woolwich on the dropdown when typing in “Woolwich”, but still shows Arsenal DLR or NR and Dockyard.
Thanks Mike. I recently got £11 back from TfL for legacy cards which I wasn’t refunded from, so have decided to keep the credit for emergencies while using the Oyster for bus journeys with a B+T pass, while using contactless for rail for now as I prefer the convenience of not having to top up.
Normally if I add the photocard to my existing Oyster card, they don’t charge me anything else as I’m spending £10.90 on buying a Bus & Tram Pass, so had to spend £5 on the deposit, £1.50 on PAYG and £10.90 for a 7 day pass.
Don’t get me wrong, the local newsagent is one of the few retailers that know how to use the terminals for more than just standard PAYG/travelcard transactions and were very helpful in resolving my issue after my other card failed this week.
I wish there was a way where discounts could be associated with a contactless card than having to use Oyster when it comes to things like this as I already use Contactless for rail journeys.
There has to be a point where railcards and B&T photocards can be linked into using contactless or Google/Apple Pay.
It’d save a lot of faffing about every time trying to get my card added every time it needs renewing.
Funny enough I renewed my bus pass with the B&T discount added to start on March 1st and I was still charged £10.60!
This was at a London Overground TVM.
Thanks Mike, I tried to read all of it, but didn’t see the changes for the B+T fares.
I’m assuming the 7 day discounted Bus & Tram Pass is still going up as the standard adult pass is?
Is the Bus and Tram Discount single bus fare being rounded up to 80p as the adult fare is going to be £1.55?
Interesting to note that if I make a Zone 1-3 PAYG journey, the off-peak fare doesn’t go up, but if I want to go from 3-5, the fare goes up 20p to £1.70 as there’s now a complex fare uprating system for journeys outside Zone 1 instead of the flat £1.50 fare for all journeys from Z2-6.
