Colin Newman

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  • in reply to: Epsom-Wimbledon using Oyster and Railcard #5974
    Colin Newman
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    There was a period when all-day Friday was off-peak. That may explain.

    Colin Newman
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    Interesting. I can’t advise, but some thoughts:

    One can use contactless at Maidenhead, which I presume is cheaper than paper tickets. No idea how you would (elegantly) obtain a contactless extension, though.

    If you swiped out with contactless having swiped in with Oyster then it seems likely you’d be charged a maximum fare and would be entitled to a refund, but it seems plausible you’d technically be travelling without a ticket once you got to zone 3. I wonder what fares would be used to calculate the refund.

    The TfL journey planner suggests GWR from Paddington for the quickest journey.

    in reply to: Tube map false OSIs #4756
    Colin Newman
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    I believe Leytonstone <-> Leytonstone High Rd is an OSI but it’s not indicated on either the so-called Tube map or the more useful ‘London’s Rail & Tube services’ map. Google maps thinks it can be walked in 10 minutes.

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    in reply to: Touching pink readers #4747
    Colin Newman
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    What wouldn’t it make any difference to? If you touch in/out in zone 1 then a pink swipe would achieve nothing, but of you swipe pink and then go on to travel through zone 1 and out again without swiping, I think you’d be charged the lower fare.

    in reply to: Rochester, Strood, Kent #4659
    Colin Newman
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    Oyster PAYG is not magic. Introducing it does not automatically reduce fares – the fares are set by whoever is running the trains, and to some extent the law. Writing to your MP to ask him/her to get fares reduced is asking directly for what you want. Introducing Oyster PAYG would increase convenience, but that’s not your primary aim – ask for what you actually want.

    Let’s hope that ITSO smart cards and/or contactless will be introduced soon. The former is conceptually like Oyster and both work by swiping the card to open the gates, but the *technology* does not determine the fares.

    in reply to: 2-3 Travelcard #4334
    Colin Newman
    Participant

    The fares are charged based on what zones you pass through or are assumed to have passed through. Witness the pink readers at various locations (eg Canada Water, Stratford, Blackhorse Rd) that are there so you can tap to show you changed there and therefore did not go through zone 1. A Z2-3 ticket is not valid for journeys that go through, end in or start in Z1.

    Colin Newman
    Participant

    Thanks. On https://content.tfl.gov.uk/60-plus-london-free-travel-national-rail-map.pdf it says:

    “An extension or other travel ticket must be purchased before travel to stations on these routes.” Isn’t an extension an Oyster extension?

    Also, why does the TfL website give me the option to top up my 60+ card? What use is that if I need to get a non Oyster ticket to go outside the area of validity?

    Colin Newman
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    Yes – sorry – you are right and I got muddled up.

    Colin Newman
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    Colin Newman
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    Are you sure? Which stations on the Shenfield line accept PAYG/contactless but not 60+?

    Colin Newman
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    The 60+ card map provided by TfL says of the GA route north of Enfield Lock “An extension or other travel ticket must be purchased before travel to stations on these routes.”

    https://content.tfl.gov.uk/60-plus-london-free-travel-national-rail-map.pdf

    Colin Newman
    Participant

    That’s a pity. As I changed at Tottenham Hale the system could deduce that I used GA, but I take your point about LST. This anomaly renders the whole Hertford East branch as unreachable by PAYG for 60+ card users.

    Colin Newman
    Participant

    “The ticket machine cannot offer the PAYG fare because that is only available when using the PAYG system.”

    Sorry, but that sounds like a circular argument. It cannot offer the PAYG fare because it does not.

    It seems technically possible for it to take £2.90 off me (ironically it would have been via my contactless card) and then put that £2.90 onto my 60+ card as an Oyster top up / fare extension.

    Colin Newman
    Participant

    Thanks. I was quite happy to use contactless (and I swiped my bank card at Rye House) and I realise I only *need* to use my 60+ card to open a ticket gate where necessary.

    If, as you put it, my 60+ card is an off-peak season ticket, what I needed to do was like the old extensions that used to be possible.

    I’m guessing people confronted with the choice between £6.90 and £2.90, aren’t going to opt for the former just to avoid having to swipe out at Enfield Lock, yet the machine doesn’t offer a way of paying the £2.90, tempting people to dodge the fare.

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