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Yes I agree, sometimes the decisions about default route do seem a bit random.
MikeModeratorI’m not the voice of TfL, but you won’t have a problem at Reading. Your Veterans Oyster Card is your ticket and if you show it to gateline staff they will let you out/in.
MikeModeratorHi Simonas,
It is all touch ins within an hour of the first (charging) touch in. Once touched in you can travel as far as you like because there is no touch out required on buses or trams. The special touch out at Wimbledon doesn’t do anything except open the gates.
MikeModeratorHi Laurence,
Yes, that is correct. My understanding is that the veterans scheme is treated like the disabled freedom pass which is still valid at any time on TfL services. Between West Drayton and Reading you will have to use the TfL Rail services, so no hopping on a fast Great Western express.
MikeModeratorHi Barry,
This is not an area I generally get involved with. If it is causing a problem then maybe RSTL need to liaise with TfL to arrive at a solution. Failing that, maybe a union would take up barriers to obtaining a legitimate benefit.
MikeModeratorI’ll try and answer as best I can. Information on the various types of travelcard is one thing I must add at some point, and odd-period versions is high on the list.
In terms of the cost you can make a rough calculation as follows: Divide the monthly price by 30 to get the daily add-on and then multiply that by the number of odd days beyond whole months. Add on the monthly rate for each whole month and that is roughly the price of the ticket. The whole months run from the date it starts to the day before the monthly anniversary (eg 15th-14th). This does mean that the price for a 44 day season will vary depending on how many days are in the month that it starts in. A zone 2-4 monthly travelcard is £117.90 and the rough daily add-on is £3.93. If you start on July 15th then the month takes you to August 14th (31 days) and you need 13 extra days so that is £51.09. Add on the monthly and you get £168.99. The official calculation is a little more complex using multiples of 5 extra days plus odd days above that, and the result is rounded to a multiple of 10p, but £169.00 is likely to be close.
The situation regarding where to purchase is sadly becoming quite restricted. The ticket system required to add travelcards to an Oyster card is gradually being phased out at National Rail stations. I’m trying to get a grasp of the current situation at the moment. Ticket machines will only sell fixed period tickets, so there are only two reliable sources left: Heathrow, King’s Cross, Liverpool Street, Piccadilly Circus and Victoria Visitor Centres; and online.
Online has been known to be problematic for overseas residents in the past, but I’ve just checked again and the address entry does now allow you to select a country. If you can set up an online account and add your Oyster card to it then you can order odd-period travelcards which will be downloaded to your card when you use it within 3 days of ordering.
MikeModeratorYes, use it in early-mid August and if still not there try in early-mid February.
The home page of the site is under review and may change as time goes on; thanks for the feedback.
MikeModeratorHi zero,
Don’t panic. Take a look at https://oysterfares.com/refunds-of-5-oyster-card-fee/ which is under Latest News. You’ve got six months to collect the refund automatically. Note though that a single bus journey will not actually work, you’ll need to make a second one a while later to actually pick up the refund. Half an hour should be enough.
The helpdesk may be able to tell you when the other card was purchased, depending on whether it was registered by your friend or not.
Hope this helps.
MikeModeratorYes, the new fare tables don’t come into force until tomorrow for ticket machines.
MikeModeratorYou can only begin to think about adding PAYG credit to either a 60+ Oyster or Freedom Pass when the times of operation are co-ordinated. Even with the am-peak restrictions because of the pandemic it is still 0900 for TfL services and 0930 for most NR services.
MikeModeratorYes, that does make sense now.
I might even try experimenting with the NFC on my phone with the app, as it seems like I’m missing a trick.
MikeModeratorI’m not sure if it’s the way I’m reading it or not, but that doesn’t quite read right.
In the morning you’ll need to use either a normal blue Oyster card or a contactless payment card/device*. If it’s an Oyster card then you can top up via the app. Don’t touch in using the 60+ Oyster card in the morning.
* Unless you have a disabled railcard which discounts peak fares you’ll be paying full price adult fares, so using contactless will charge the same fares.
MikeModeratorYes, that’s right. You can’t put anything else on a 60+ Oyster so you’ll need a normal one for pre-9am travel.
MikeModeratorThanks for letting us know.
MikeModeratorHi William,
I’ve not heard that one before, and I’m struggling to work out how it might happen. My best guess is that there was a date mismatch on the bus and it didn’t recognise the travelcard.
I don’t think this will automatically get picked up, so I’d advise calling the helpline. I’d be interested to hear their thoughts on how it might have happened. Also, unless you’re happy to have £1.50 tied up on the card you can ask for the refund to be sent to your bank. It depends whether you regularly use PAYG for out of zone journeys or not.
MikeModeratorArgh! Don’t mention the OEP!
Seriously, fare dodging cannot be condoned and as Matthew says, you would be caught by a revenue block or an on train inspection before Greenwich or Lewisham. If you can tell us where you are going on the tube then there might be an alternative to consider.
MikeModeratorYes. As long as each bit of the journey is joined together as one then it is the time of the original touch in that dictates the fare. See https://oysterfares.com/information-pages/peak-off-peak-and-caps/.
MikeModerator1) They can travel via Stratford.
2) Same with Epsom and Epsom Downs.
3) Watford Junction has loads of fast services to Euston, while High Street is a faster journey than from Watford Met.MikeModerator1) It’s too close to Liverpool Street. If it was zone 2 then a lot of commuters from the East and South would travel there rather than into zone 1.
2) Essex Council provide a financial contribution to allow the whole end of the line to be in zone 6. It’s a similar situation to Caterham, Tattenham Corner and Epsom Downs in Surrey which all used to be beyond zone 6.
3) Watford is down to usefulness of service and time to Central London.You might find this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do2tNpuYFM0 of interest.
MikeModeratorI’m not particularly knowledgeable about Google Pay as I don’t use it. I’m surprised that it needs signal to record a touch though. I might have to sign up to try it out when we’re allowed out again.
MikeModeratorAll I know is what has been published on their site: https://www.c2c-online.co.uk/media-centre/latest-news/oyster-cards-and-products-will-soon-no-longer-be-available-from-c2c-ticket-offices/.
It may well be related to a change in their ticketing system. Chiltern stopped handling Oyster in their ticket offices a year or so back.
MikeModeratorThanks for the tip-off Martin.
MikeModeratorIt’s certainly possible to cap to zone 14. Without doing the sums I don’t know whether the cheapest extension combination would use Gatwick as the outboundary cap or one of the others.
MikeModeratorIn the executive summary it’s sections 1.8 to 1.14.
The 7-day pass is going up 70p while the 1-day pass goes up 20p.
MikeModeratorI don’t understand this: “if both ends of the journey are beyond zone 6 then a cap will apply but an extension fare will also be charged if that cap is reached”, what do you mean please?
What I mean is that the contactless only caps are between the outboundary station and zones 1-6. If you travelled from Dartford to London, did some other journeys on the tube, then went to Slough and back and finally back to Dartford, you’d be charged the cheaper of:
- Slough cap and two singles between Dartford and zone 6
- Dartford (zone 8 cap) and two singles between Slough and zone 6
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